The Beatles’ ‘1+’ — A Fan’s Notes

Apple Corps and UMG have announced the Nov. 6 release of multiple configurations of reworked and expanded versions of the “1” album that showcase The Beatles’ promo films along with their 27 No.1 U.K. and U.S. singles. Beatlefan Contributing Editor Tom Frangione offers a fan’s analysis of the impending releases. …

The "1+" deluxe package, due Nov. 6.

The “1+” deluxe package, due Nov. 6.

Back in 1999, when Paul McCartney was at long last inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame as a solo artist, his daughter Stella was at his side wearing a tank-top that none too subtly proclaimed “About F***ing Time.” Such sentiment was never more appropriate, perhaps, than now, with the news that a compilation of Beatles promo films and other video material will be hitting the streets in November. Alongside a newly mixed audio collection of the chart-topping Beatles “1” album, companion videos for each of the 27 songs will be presented.

The "1" album is receiving a completely new stereo remix.

The “1” album is receiving a completely new stereo remix.

Now, The Beatles did not do what we have come to know as promotional videos for all of these songs. Where they didn’t, concert clips, stills and other footage have been compiled to represent the songs. Not having seen the final product, of course, makes it difficult to do much more than speculate, but, by way of example, this approach was used for the 20th anniversary single of “Love Me Do” back in 1982. (It’s unclear whether that version will appear in this release.)

But, for quite a few songs, original promos do exist, dating back to the mid-1960s, when the insatiable demand for live television appearances by The Beatles gave birth to the idea of instead providing programs with performance “promo films” such as for “Ticket to Ride,” which, while not even close to passing as “live” performances (the absence of guitar leads, microphones and amplifiers is more than a minor hint), showed the band miming along while manning their respective instruments.

Yet, even in these relatively early outings, an element of surrealism was creeping in at a robust pace, not unlike the developments heard on another of the band’s side outlets, their annual Christmas records. By 1967, the films were being produced in color and adding even more vivid imagery. For some songs, there were even alternate promos, some of which were not widely seen.

The "1+" CD and DVD standard package.

The “1+” CD and DVD standard package.

Now, at long last, the world at large will get a chance to revel in what video collectors have for years compiled, traded, and upgraded. The samples used in the electronic press kits for the “1+” releases evidence some brilliant remastering.

Collectors will be scrambling to compare the contents to what they have in the latest incarnation of whatever “definitive” bootleg video compilation they have on their shelves (anybody need a copy of “Unsurpassed Promos” or “Chronology” … CHEAP?). Of course, those unsanctioned collections reflected their creators’ whims and often included suitable complementary material, such as the musical “performances” from the various Beatles movies.

A look at the official “1+” track listing shows many of the alternate versions of the promos will be collected on the second DVD (or Blu-ray) to be included in the deluxe editions. So, all three of the well-known versions of “Hello Goodbye” will be in there. In several other cases, a stray alternate does not appear to have made the cut. However, early word is that some of them may be included as “Easter eggs” in the various menus (really? REALLY ? I thought that gimmick went the way of the “hidden bonus track” on CDs). Stay tuned for the results from your favorite sleuths here at Beatlefan.

The "1" CD and Blu-ray configuration.

The “1” CD and Blu-ray configuration.

Speaking of the bonus disc, major kudos to Apple for including the promotional clips for the BBC album tracks “Baby It’s You” and “Words of Love” as well as the new songs presented in the “Anthology” — “Free As a Bird” and “Real Love.”

The release looks to  satisfy a heretofore major gap in The Beatles’ catalog. Obviously, the EMI body of work has been definitively represented by the 2009 remastered series. The runner-up in terms of importance in the story — the BBC recordings — has been substantially covered for all but the most ardent collector. The movies — save for “Let It Be” — have each received the deluxe remastered treatment. And, certainly, the “Anthology” was a noble run through the vaults, though it is now some 20 years in the rear view mirror (can that be?).

Beyond “Let It Be,” the last real vestiges of the canon that remain unissued are the Christmas album, and some of live projects such as the Hollywood Bowl album and Shea Stadium film.

About f***ing time, indeed.

— Tom Frangione

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Songs That Fans Wish Macca Was Singing

In Beatlefan #214, Bill King asked readers to send in songs they’d love to hear Paul McCartney do in concert that he’s never performed live before as well as songs he’s done in the past that they’d like to see brought back.

He got quite a few responses. Here’s his report on the songs fans would like Macca to add to his set list …

Beatlefan readers speak out on what songs they'd like to see added to McCartney's set list.

Beatlefan readers speak out on what songs they’d like to see added to McCartney’s set list.

This entire exercise was prompted by Paul McCartney adding a couple of unexpected numbers to his spring/summer set list, “Another Girl” and “Temporary Secretary.” The latter being a relatively obscure tune from his “McCartney II” album, it set me to thinking about what other songs he might revive from that decade, which is a favorite of my wife, Leslie.

As it turned out after I polled Beatlefan readers, “Wanderlust,” one of Leslie’s very favorite Macca songs (from that or any period), appears to be a tune that a lot of fans would like to hear in concert.

Tied with “Wanderlust” atop the list of songs that readers would like to see Paul do live was “Take It Away,” another tune from the same album, “Tug of War,” that he only ever did onstage when making the music video in front of fan club members.

Since “Tug of War” is being reissued Oct. 2 as the latest entry in the McCartney Archive series, fall dates on Macca’s Out There! Tour would be the perfect time to add one or both numbers to his set list!

Just behind those two songs in third place on the reader want list was one of the Beatles tunes Macca’s never done in concert, “Oh! Darling,” though a couple of fans expressed reservations that it might take a toll on Paul’s aging voice. Tied for third was another ‘80s tune, “No More Lonely Nights.”

Tied in fourth place were an early solo hit, “Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey,” and one of Macca’s tracks from The Beatles’ White Album, “Rocky Raccoon” (which, as one reader noted, would give him a chance to sing wife Nancy’s name).

And tied for fifth place on the list were a cluster of songs: “Daytime Nightime Suffering” (a personal favorite of mine), “Ballroom Dancing,” “Beautiful Night,” “The World Tonight,” the quirky “Monkberry Moon Delight” and “With a Little Luck.”

Then came another group with slightly less support: “Young Boy,” “No Values,” “Back Seat of My Car,” “Only Love Remains,” “Maxwell’s Silver Hammer,” “Helen Wheels,” “Cafe on the Left Bank” and “Pipes of Peace.”

There are plenty of solo and Beatles songs still to choose from ...

There are plenty of solo and Beatles songs still to choose from …

Other tunes mentioned: “Summer of 59,” “Big Boys Bickering,” “Waterfalls,” “Warm and Beautiful,” “Little Willow,” “Tomorrow,” “Manunia,” “Girls School,” “I’m Carrying,” “I Can Bet,” “Angry,” “Stranglehold,” “Tug of War,” “Spies Like Us,” “Teddy Boy,” “Big Barn Bed,” “Through Our Love,” “Press,” “On the Wings of a Nightingale” (a song Paul wrote for the Everly Brothers), ”Dear Boy,´Oh Woman Oh Why,” “So Glad to See You Here,” “One of These Days,” “Move Over Busker,” “That Day Is Done,” “Get on the Right Thing,” :Heart of the Country,” “Back on My Feet,”  “Friends to Go,” “I’ll Be on My Way” and ”Tell Me What You See.”

Among songs that McCartney has done before in concert that people would like to hear again, the unchallenged leader was “Goodnight Tonight” from Wings’ 1979 U.K. tour.

Tied for second place among would-be returnees were “My Brave Face” (another personal fave of mine), “Getting Closer” and the Beatles tune “She’s a Woman” (done on his 2004 European tour).

What surprises might lurk on the fall Out There! set list?

What surprises might lurk on the fall Out There! set list?

Also drawing some support: “Silly Love Songs” (a highlight of the 1976 Wings Over America tour), “Old Siam Sir” (also from the final Wings tour) and “Figure of Eight,” the ballsy choice of show-opener on Macca’s 1989-90 comeback tour.

Others receiving mention include “Come and Get It” (which was briefly in the set list in 2011 and would be a timely addition this fall with the release of Paul’s Hollywood Vampires rendition of the tune he wrote for Badfinger), “I’ve Had Enough,” “Too Many People/She Came in Through the Bathroom Window” (as done in the 2005 set list that many consider Paul’s finest), “Fool on the Hill,” “For No One,” “Things We Said Today,” “Getting Better,” “Biker Like an Icon,” “Put It There,” “Coming Up,” :Bluebird,” “We Got Married,” “C’mon People,” “Lonely Road,” “Only Mama Knows,” “House of Wax,” “Hope of Deliverance” (which still shows up sometimes, mainly on Latin American dates) and “Fine Line.”

Are there other solo or Beatle favorites of yours that you’d like to hear McCartney perform in concert? Feel free to share them in the comments.

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The Day The Beatles Came to Town

What was it like when a town was invaded by Beatlemania? Here’s Bill King’s 1985 look at what happened in Atlanta on Aug. 18, 1965, 20 years earlier, when The Beatles played Atlanta Stadium. This article originally was published in Beatlefan #41, August 1985. Also included at the bottom is a 1994 Beatlefan report on a soundboard recording of the Atlanta show that had recently surfaced at that time.

The Beatles with Atlanta Mayor Ivan Allen in August 1965.

The Beatles with Atlanta Mayor Ivan Allen in August 1965.

The Fab Four’s 1965 Visit to Atlanta

Attending last year’s show by The Jacksons at Atlanta-Fulton County Stadium, Tony Taylor couldn’t help thinking back to another show he’d seen at that same venue.
It was Aug. 18, 1965. Twenty years ago. The day The Beatles came to town.

“There really was no comparison between the Michael Jackson concert and The Beatles at Atlanta Stadium,” maintains Taylor, who as a deejay for WQXI-AM (“Quixie in Dixie”) helped emcee The Beatles’ show.

“The Beatles concert at Atlanta Stadium sticks in my mind as perhaps the greatest event I ever witnessed,” he says. “The entire stadium bordered on hysteria. I can still see the faces of the girls, tears in their eyes, as they hung over the wall and the policemen tried to restrain them. I’ll never forget it.”

Unforgettable. Unbelievable. Words like that are used by members of the crowd of 34,000 who attended The Beatles’ only Atlanta performance.

Even those who weren’t screaming teenagers at the time recall The Beatles’ visit — which preceded the arrival in Atlanta of the Braves — as an epochal event in the emergence of Atlanta as a major city.

“The excitement was shared by the whole community,” says Taylor, now in advertising but at the time the 28-year-old midday man on Quixie, Atlanta’s dominant Top 40 station. “The city took on a different character. The reserved Southerner became a hysterical fan.”

As they’d done around the world, John Lennon, Paul McCartney, George Harrison and Ringo Starr sparked unprecedented media coverage, beginning weeks before the show date. As early as July, Atlanta Mayor Ivan Allen Jr. was quoted by The Atlanta Constitution as saying The Beatles’ visit to Atlanta was causing a stir comparable to the 1939 premiere of “Gone With the Wind” — and in Atlanta, that’s quite a stir.
“The Beatles were a big event, no question about it,” Allen says. “It was a landmark for Atlanta.”

“It was the only time we ever had as much publicity for a show as we thought we should have,” jokes 65-year-old Ralph Bridges, whose Famous Artists firm promoted The Beatles’ Atlanta Stadium concert. “It was fantastic.”

Bridges, who prior to that time had promoted only a handful of rock ‘n’ roll shows, had passed on bringing The Beatles to Atlanta during their 1964 tour because he wasn’t sure he could meet the $12,500 guarantee. A year later, the guarantee for the group was around $50,000. But by then, it was obvious The Beatles’ popularity wasn’t going to fade any time soon, so Bridges took the plunge.

A ticket stub from The Beatles' Atlanta Stadium concert.

A ticket stub from The Beatles’ Atlanta Stadium concert.

Tickets for the concert at the then virtually new stadium went on sale in May. Lower level seats were priced by Famous Artists at $5.50. Upper level seats (where binoculars were essential) cost $4.50. Response was good, with ticket requests coming from as far away as Guatemala and California. “I was impressed,” Bridges says, “because among the first orders were one from Mayor Allen and one from Bobby Jones [the golfing legend and civic leader], who was buying them for his grandchildren.”

“My 70-year-old mother prompted me,” recalls Mayor Allen, who was 54 at the time. “She insisted I take her to the stadium to hear The Beatles.”

A week before the concert, Famous Artists ran an ad in the papers saying: “Beware of Rumors! We are not sold out. Good tickets still available.” Actually, that meant 8,000 of the upper deck $4.50 seats were available. All the $5.50 tickets were long gone. Because of the size of the stadium, however, it was not a sell-out, with about 2,000 of the 36,000 tickets printed going unsold.

Security — keeping the overenthusiastic fans from harming The Beatles or themselves — was Bridges’ greatest concern. “Superintendent James Mosely of the police department was a big help,” the promoter recalls. “He went with us to the Shea Stadium show in New York. That really scared us to death, because it was within an inch of a full-scale riot. The fans kept coming over the centerfield fence and I thought, ‘Oh, no! How are we going to stop them if that happens in Atlanta?'”

Bridges hired 150 off-duty policemen for the Atlanta Stadium show and, he says, “we prepared a series of lines of defense. It was just like a full-scale battle plan.” Between the crowd and The Beatles would be a waist-high fence, a rolled-wire barricade, a ring of wooden sawhorses and a line of 50 police officers. Insurance for the event cost the promoter $1,900.

Meanwhile, the media coverage had shifted into high gear. WQXI, the “official” Beatles station in town, was featuring regular reports on the progress of their American tour. The “Quixie A-Go-Go” TV show featured The Beatles prominently, and the Saturday before the show, The Atlanta Journal had an interview with Quixie deejay Paul Drew, who’d traveled with the Fab Four and was to join the ’65 tour in New York and travel with it to Atlanta. In a nice bit of overstatement, a photo of Drew in a Beatles wig was captioned: “Paul Drew, The Fifth Beatle.”

A newspaper ad encouraging fans to take the bus to the concert.

A newspaper ad encouraging fans to take the bus to the concert.

Sunday’s paper was full of The Beatles, including tips for parents asking that they not drive directly to the stadium, but let their kids use the special “Beatle Bus” shuttles. There also was a short item noting that “The Beatles in Atlanta: Blight or Blessing?” was the subject of the Rev. Howard Pyle’s sermon that day at Faith Baptist Church.

Wednesday morning, the Constitution’s front page declared that “B Day” had arrived. The Beatles and their entourage of 40 landed at a remote corner of the airport — out of view of fans waiting at the terminal — around 2 p.m. that afternoon on a private Lockheed Electra. Three limousines transported them to the stadium, where they would spend the entirety of their stay in Atlanta.

Janet Caldwell, now a political researcher but then a 31-year-old assistant to Bridges, remembers with amusement that despite all of Famous Artists’ fevered preparations, The Beatles still caught them napping on one item. “Ringo decided to wash his hair,” she says, “and we had to send out, rush, rush, for a hair dryer.”

“My wife Cindy had her stand-up hair dryer brought over from the house,” Bridges says. “That was real unusual in those days. Boys generally didn’t use hair dryers.”

Atlanta caterer Frank Cloudt, who’d been hired to provide The Beatles’ dinner, found them lounging on army cots in one of the stadium dressing rooms that afternoon. Cloudt wanted to know if it was true, as he’d been told, that they wanted hamburgers for their meal. “They said, ‘Oh, no, not again,'” he recalls.

So that evening The Beatles dined on their choice of meats — pork loin, a leg of spring lamb and top sirloin — along with corn on the cob (they had asked Cloudt if he could provide “corn on a stick”), fresh pole beans, fresh fruit, a relish platter and freshly-baked apple pie. A full bar also was provided, though only one Beatle (Cloudt can’t remember which one) had just one drink.

A year later, Cloudt says, when Bridges staged another Beatles show in Memphis, “they told Ralph that the supper they’d had in Atlanta was the best meal they’d ever had anywhere on tour. They enjoyed it.” So much so that they used Cloudt’s magic marker to autograph their four china plates, which Cloudt now keeps in a bank vault. Lennon’s punful plate reads: “Thanks for a flat wear.”

Cloudt, 42 at the time, was not a fan of The Beatles’ music and had approached the assignment with mixed feelings. But after spending some time sitting with the group and talking to them, he says, “I was very impressed. They were well-mannered and easy to talk to. They just seemed like lonely young guys away from home. But they were very accommodating, posing for pictures with groups of VIPs who kept coming in to meet them.”

“They were very easy to get along with,” says Bridges. “Paul in particular. He was taking as many pictures of everyone else as they were of him.”

The obligatory Beatles press conference at the stadium — about 15 minutes of mainly nonsensical questions — began shortly after 5 p.m. Around 150 “reporters” were present, many of them from high school newspapers. There also were some members of the local chapter of the Beatles Fan Club, headed by 15-year-old Brenda Jean Bene (now known as “B.J.” and married to WQXI deejay J.J. Jackson), who’d come to present their idols with stuffed animals, rings, jellybeans and other presents.

“I remember they were very nice,” says B.J., who had met The Beatles the year before at the Gator Bowl in Jacksonville, thanks to arrangements made by her favorite deejay, Paul Drew. “They didn’t act like big hotdogs,” she says. “John was zany. George was sort of quiet and Ringo was, too. Paul was very gentlemanly and would really take the time to answer your questions.”

What followed that evening was splashed all over Thursday morning’s front page. Taylor introduced Mayor Allen, who took the stage to declare The Beatles “honorary Atlantans.” Then came the opening acts — King Curtis, the Discotheque Dancers, Cannibal and the Headhunters, Brenda Holloway and Sounds Incorporated.

Taylor, who stood next to The Beatles in the dugout as they waited their turn, recalls that “they looked tired, frightened. But when it came time to go onstage, that feat turned to a smile. It turned into a performance.” Caldwell, on the other hand, recalls, “They seemed to be enjoying the whole thing. They weren’t jaded yet.”

At 9:37 p.m., the crowd erupted into an ear-splitting shriek as The Beatles, clad in dark blue suits, ran from the third base dugout to the stage, situated on second base. “There seemed to be one continuous scream,” Caldwell says. “It was super high-pitched and unrelenting.”

“It was loud,” agrees B.J. “It was really hard to hear them over the screaming.”

The Beatles, however, praised the sound at the Atlanta concert as the best they’d encountered in America. (In those days, touring acts didn’t carry their own sound equipment.)

“I think what really impressed them was that they had enough monitors onstage so they could hear what they were playing,” says Duke Mewborn, president of Baker Audio, which provided the sound system for the show. The company, which generally does sound systems for places like Atlanta Airport rather than concerts, had installed the system for the stadium and so was asked to handle The Beatles’ show. “We gathered every piece of equipment we could beg or borrow,” Mewborn recalls. “We had two large clusters of loud speakers at first base and third base and about 5,000 watts of amplification. But we couldn’t anticipate how loud the crowd really was. It was awesome.”

Still, he says, “their management got in touch later and wanted us to do all their shows. That wasn’t our business, but we did consult on Candlestick Park and a couple of others.”

Inside the stadium, the sights were just as frenetic as the sound was loud. Caldwell remembers that “little girls would throw themselves bodily over the railings onto the rolls of wire and into the arms of the policemen, who would roll them back over.”

The six first-aid stations were kept busy, Bridges says, “mostly with cases of hysteria. I walked around the stadium to see what was going on, and the kids were just continually yelling. I asked a couple of them why they didn’t stop screaming so they could hear the music, and they said they just couldn’t help it.”

Bridges also remembers that, from the stage, the crowd “looked like thousands of fireflies because of all the cameras that were flashing all the time. I thought it was really beautiful.”

The show, covered with four pages of pictures and stories in the Constitution and six pages in the afternoon Atlanta Journal, began with “Twist and Shout.” Then came “She’s a Woman” (during which McCartney’s mike fell over), “I Feel Fine,” “Dizzy Miss Lizzie,” “Ticket to Ride,” “Everybody’s Trying to Be My Baby” (Harrison’s only lead vocal), “Can’t Buy Me Love,” “Baby’s in Black,” “I Wanna Be Your Man (Starr’s vocal), “A Hard Day’s Night,” “Help!” and “I’m Down.”

“It was a good show,” B.J. recalls. “Better than in Jacksonville. It was perfect weather, unlike Jacksonville, where the winds gave Ringo a hard time.”

Front page coverage in the next day's edition of The Atlanta Journal.

Front page coverage in the next day’s edition of The Atlanta Journal.

Press coverage of the concert generally was favorable, if a bit condescending. The Journal said that “hearing one of their concerts is the most amazing and entertaining headache a person can get.”

After the show, the limos took The Beatles directly back to Atlanta Airport, where they eluded a crowd of 200 fans and took off just before midnight for Houston, where their next show was scheduled for 3:30 p.m. the next day.

In articles that ran in the Atlanta papers over the next few days, it was revealed that McCartney had been the heaviest seller at the stadium concession stands, that the state had garnished $5,176 in state income taxes before the show (but expected to refund part of that), and that the show had grossed about $240,000.

“It was the biggest gross we ever had,” says Bridges, whose firm now is mostly a booking agency for acts like Ferrante & Teicher. “But when we got through figuring it up and paying everybody, I think we lost money. Still, we were glad we did it, because we got so much notoriety. It was the biggest thing that ever happened to us.”

And, it might be argued, the biggest thing ever to happen to Atlanta Stadium.

Beatles Atlanta Soundboard Recording Surfaces!

In the fall of 1994, a soundboard tape of The Beatles’ Atlanta Stadium concert surfaced. Here’s Bill King’s report, originally published in Beatlefan #91, November 1994. 

A previously uncirculated and (so far) unbootlegged soundboard recording of The Beatles’ Aug. 18, 1965, concert at Atlanta Stadium surfaced recently in Atlanta.

The tape — not to be confused with the bogus concert performance mistakenly passed off by bootleggers as Atlanta in the early ’70s – has slight stereo separation and features emcee Paul Drew’s pre-performance comments (mentioning his travels with The Beatles and plugging a couple of upcoming shows for the same promoter) and his band introduction. Drew, then the top deejay on WQXI (“Quixie in Dixie”), was the city’s “Fifth Beatle”.

The tape has 10 of the 12 songs done that night — “Twist and Shout,” “She’s a Woman,” “I Feel Fine,” “Ticket to Ride,” “Everybody’s Trying to Be My Baby,” “Can’t Buy Me Love,” “Baby’s in Black,” “I Wanna Be Your Man,” “Help!” and “I’m Down” — with “Dizzy Miss Lizzie” and “A Hard Day’s Night” missing.

The Beatles’ stage patter on the tape is notable because, while familiar, it includes a couple of comments not previously heard on tapes from the ’65 tour. After “She’s a Woman,” McCartney is addressing the crowd of 34,000 and comments on the sound. (The Beatles said Atlanta had the best sound of the tour because they actually could hear themselves.) “We’d like to carry on now — ooh! It’s loud, isn’t it? Hey? Great!” he says before returning to his introduction of “I Feel Fine.”

After that number, McCartney again thanks the crowd and in the midst of introducing the next number, he asks “Hey, can you all hear me? Can you hear me? [Audience screams] Great, marvelous!” and resumes the introduction with Lennon saying off-mike, “They can all hear, Paul.”

While introducing “Can’t Buy Me Love,” McCartney says: “This next song is one where if you all feel like clappin’ your hands, well, do so, in this one. I’ve been sayin’ this for about three days [the tour had begun Aug. 15 in New York at Shea Stadium] and nobody ever claps ’em, but don’t worry.”

Lennon inserts a Southern cliche into the next intro: “Thank you, folks. You all” and lapses into some of his gibberish before saying the next song is “a slow number and it’s also a waltz, and it’s called ‘Baby’s in Black . . . pool’” in a play on the name of a British resort town.

After “I Wanna Be Your Man,” Lennon kills time before the missing “A Hard Day’s Night,” laughingly saying: “We’ll have to wait a minute now while Paul changes his bass, he’s broken a string! Have you? Whaddya gonna do? Keep talking? What shall I say? [uses phony sincere voice] It’s simply wonderful to be here . . . I can’t think of anythin’ to say so why don’t you just hum and talk to yourselves for a bit.”

Then, after an audible tape splice, Lennon refers to the missing “A Hard Day’s Night” when he introduces “Help!” by saying, “this is also a song from a film we made, and it’s the last film we made.”

The origin of the soundboard recording has not been determined, but the comments and performances match another uncirculated tape in different hands that consists of the beginnings and endings of songs from the Atlanta performance. The two tapes differ in sound quality and slightly in contents: The excerpt tape contains a portion of the missing “Dizzy Miss Lizzie” but ends after “I Wanna Be Your Man.”

The story that accompanied the soundboard tape — that it was made for a reporter from one of the local papers covering the concert — is dismissed as improbable by those familiar with the show. Duke Mewborn of Baker Audio, who handled the sound for the show, said whoever made the tape had to have taken it from their feed. “I don’t remember anybody taping it but that’s not to say someone didn’t ask us for a feed and we gave it to ’em. I just don’t remember it,” he said.

The story surrounding the excerpts tape, which only has one channel of sound, is that it was made at the behest of a local radio station which wanted to use the bits in some sort of promotion.

As we went to press, word already was circulating that one of the underground labels in Italy, where copyright law still allows Beatles concert recordings to be issued legitimately, was planning to issue the soundboard recording of the Atlanta show, paired with the new improved Shea recording that has shown up on a couple of other bootlegs.

(Rick Glover and Glenn Neuwirth contributed to this report.)

Postscript: A speed-corrected and less-hissy bootleg of the tape, “The Beatles Live at Atlanta Stadium, Atlanta, GA 8/18/65” (Toby BBCD 0001), was issued early in 2005 as a limited edition. The version of the Atlanta soundboard recording available on YouTube includes “Dizzy Miss Lizzy” (spliced in from the excerpts tape) but is still missing “A Hard Day’s Night.”

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Wandering Early and Late … With James Taylor

Beatlefan Contributing Editor Tom Frangione got to take part in a Sirius XM session with James Taylor on June 19 and talked with the star about what it was like to be on The Beatles’ Apple Records label early in his career. …

James Taylor and Tom Frangione

James Taylor and Tom Frangione

Rock and Roll Hall of Famer and former Apple Records recording artist James Taylor has hit the road with a vengeance to promote his superb new album “Before This World.” Capping off a week which saw his widely hailed appearance on the Jimmy Fallon “Tonight” show and a satellite concert broadcast from New York’s famed Apollo Theater, JT was on hand to do a Town Hall session for Sirius XM radio and a rare in-store signing appearance.

The Town Hall was part of Taylor’s monthlong celebration on Sirius XM, where he had a dedicated channel playing loads of familiar favorites, deep album tracks, demos and of course, the new album. Specialty programming included “Top 10” shows hosted by artists such as Sheryl Crow, and a simulcast of the Apollo concert. The Town Hall (similar to ones done by Billy Joel and others) was hosted by Bob Costas, a great choice given one of the new album tracks is “Angels Of Fenway,” chronicling the live struggles of Red Sox nation.

Lanyard for JT's Sirius XM apperaance.

Lanyard for JT’s Sirius XM apperaance.

The ever savvy Taylor was keenly aware of his surroundings, the hometown of the “evil empire” that is the New York Yankees. I didn’t have the heart to tell him I was a Mets fan; citizens of Red Sox nation still get a twitch when they hear that, harking back to the 1986 World Series.

Our baseball “bond” was strengthened by his regaling of the 2004 ALCS where the Sox rallied from a 3-0 deficit to take the series from the Yanks — in the Bronx, yet — a game I was lucky enough to attend (the sight of Yankee fans throwing garbage at their own as they came off the field is forever emblazoned in my memory, but I digress …)

About 30 fans were invited guests for the session, about 10 of whom, myself included, got to ask JT a question as part of the broadcast. Of course, I framed it within the context of the new album, whose opening cut “Today, Today, Today” is about establishing ones’ self, and planting a flag, and as JT recalled in the liner notes, took him back to his own 1968 journey to London. I asked him to share what it was like to record under The Beatles’ auspices, and come out of it knowing he “birthed” one of his mentors’ all-time greatest love songs, as his “Something in the Way She Moves” clearly made a mark on one George Harrison.

In the Sirius XM studio.

In the Sirius XM studio.

Taylor recalled his audition for Paul McCartney and Harrison at Apple being arranged by Peter Asher. Recording at Trident, concurrent with the Beatles own White Album sessions in the summer of 1968, was clear in his memory, as he cited certain sessions he attended (but didn’t play on), including those for both “Hey Jude” and “Revolution”.

As for “Something in the Way She Moves,” JT graced us with a little guitar demonstration to show how he copped The Beatles’ own “I Feel Fine” for the hook in his song’s chorus (“she’s been with me now for a long long time and I feel fine”).

"Number One" by Hoke Simpson.

“Number One” by Hoke Simpson.

Another highlight of the session was Costas asking JT about the first record he ever bought, which turned out to be “Number One” (no, not the Rutles number) by Hoke Simpson in honor of the 1957 North Carolina Tar Heels college basketball championship, which he had long ago lost track of. Sirius XM’s resident programmer extraordinaire Lou Simon, who handled the specialty channel for Taylor, knew of this in advance and managed to track down a copy (mint, yet!) to present and air during the broadcast, visibly a touching gesture for the sentimental Taylor.

Heading downtown after the broadcast, Taylor did a rare in-store signing at Barnes & Noble in Union Square, where there were about 500 eager fans in attendance. There was no Q&A or musical performance, but Taylor did take the time to chat with each fan he met. The store did a brisk business in sales of all five formats of the new release, as purchase of any and all would qualify for a bracelet granting admission to the event. He would sign one of each format (CD, CD/DVD, deluxe book edition, LP or “exclusive” clear vinyl). Ever on top of my JT-ness, I’d brought along a 6th edition, available through the Target chain, which contained three bonus tracks. He was gracious enough to sign that even if it was not a Barnes & Noble purchase.

Beatlefan contributor Nikki Denett (Tom's cousin) meets JT.

Beatlefan contributor Nikki Denett (Tom’s cousin) meets JT.

When I got to the signing table, he flashed a grin of recognition from our chat earlier in the day, and I broke the ice with, “Hey, where do I know you from?” and was sure to let him know how much his music has meant to me (things that would’ve been a bit out of place during the Q&A on the live broadcast), which he seemed very appreciative of.

I will forever treasure the inscription he took the time to write in the book of my deluxe edition: “for Tom, on a great day …. James Taylor (dated) 19 June ’15”.

Taylor and his All Star Band (where have I heard THAT moniker before?) are touring the US throughout the summer in support of the new album. Don’t miss it.

Tom Frangione

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BEATLEFAN LETTERS: Viewpoints and Questions From Our Readers

Below are letters from some readers and the editors’ responses where necessary (in italics). Feel free to add your own comments below. And, if there’s something we’ve published, a topic in the Beatles world you’d like to sound off on, or you’d just like to ask a question, email BEATLEFAN LETTERS at


Macca with Rihanna and Kanye West.

Macca with Rihanna and Kanye West.

I want to thank Bill King and Beatlefan for continuing to find ways to represent the millennial generation of Beatles fans (third-generation fans?) in the magazine. (I wonder how many of these fans might have been the youngsters contributing to the [Helter Skelter] department for children that the magazine ran back in the mid-1990s!) The Viewpoint in Issue #213 about Paul McCartney working with Kanye West and Rihanna written by Nikki Denett provides a nuanced assessment of a situation that, unfortunately, has tended to draw kneejerk, uninformed reactions from many older fans. And this isn’t the first time you’ve provided an outlet for the generation that is the children of the original Beatles fans. I remember your own son has written eloquently in your pages before, and you’ve had articles by the college student who is your office assistant [Brigid Choi]. Plus, as you’ve noted in your Publisher’s Notes, some of your regular contributors are second-generation fans who came of age during the Wings era or even afterward. Thank you for never viewing Beatles fandom as one bunch of likeminded folks who all grew up in the 1960s!


(Thanks, Sandra. We love to have fans of all ages in our pages, and we urge anyone who’d like to write for us to contact us at

Ringo likes to collaborate when writing songs.

Ringo likes to collaborate when writing songs.

I really enjoyed Ken Sharp’s conversation with Ringo in Beatlefan #213, especially the part that dealt with Ringo coming into his own as a songwriter. He said that while he’s written some songs on his own, “mainly it’s always a collaboration.” But he also says that he wrote “It Don’t Come Easy” and “Photograph,” and we know that although he was not credited, George Harrison played a large part in the writing of those songs. Don’t you think that after all these years it would be a great gesture on Ringo’s part to give co-writing credit to George?

TAD BROWN, Chicago

(Although it’s true George gave a very large assist to Ringo in the writing of those songs, we think if he had wanted credit, he would have taken it at the time. So, no, we don’t see a real need for Ringo to revisit the question of the songwriting credits.)

Beatlefan #209

Beatlefan #209

Hey guys and gals at Beatlefan, I’d like to thank you for really making an effort to mix it up over the past year in terms of who you feature on your front cover. As I write this, the past six issues have had a Beatles group shot (from “A Hard Day’s Night”), that lovely, wonderful “Venus and Mars” era picture of Paul, a vintage shot of George, Paul in concert, Ringo in concert, and this latest issue’s outstanding joint photo of Paul and Ringo together. Two or three of those probably rank among my all-time favorite Beatlefan covers, and I’ve been reading your mag since the mid-1980s! Keep up the great work!


(Thanks, Diana. It helps when new releases and reissues loosen up the supply of available shots. And we’d like to once again thank Ringo’s personal photographer, Rob Shanahan, and his publicist, Elizabeth Freund, for providing the shot used on the cover of #213 when we asked whether they had something showing Paul and Ringo together. We were very pleased and honored to run it on our front cover.)

A reader was upset that a Beatlefan writer preferred a McCartney album to one by Harrison.

A reader was upset that a Beatlefan writer preferred a McCartney album to one by Harrison.

I have held my tongue for several years concerning Howie Edelson’s obvious hate of George Harrison and devotion to Paul McCartney. As a journalist myself, I have cringed at the way Edelson puts nasty and ill-spirited digs at George into his news features or Q&As — comments that only belong in editorials or op/ed pieces. Now comes Issue 213 where he throws in that “Press to Play” is “a far better album” than “Cloud Nine.” THAT is a ridiculous comment that insults Harrison’s memory and all of George’s fans. (Yes, Howie, we exist!)  This is a disturbing trend in Edelson’s articles and I seriously question a Beatle publication so blatant in publishing such material. Look at the facts (1987-88 charts, articles of the time) and explain how Edelson comes up with his latest gem? I am a longtime subscriber to Beatlefan. But I am ready to cancel because of Howie Edelson’s irresponsible and unprofessional anti-Harrison rants.

TIM SMITH, Livonia, MI

First, a response from Publisher Bill King: Beatlefan is not a newspaper. It’s a journal of news and opinion, and we’ve always run opinions in our articles and even (gasp) in our news roundup, going back to the very beginning more than 36 years ago. I can’t speak to Howie’s preference for “Press to Play” over “Cloud Nine” (personally, I prefer “Cloud Nine”) but he has his own response below. In the meantime, I will say I think you’re cherrypicking his comments in claiming he is devoted to McCartney. You could fairly say Howie is devoted to Wings, but he’s been pretty brutal in some of his views on latterday McCartney. And, frankly, we think you’re overreacting here. Saying he prefers the McCartney album to the Harrison album is hardly an “irresponsible” and “unprofessional” rant that insults George’s memory or fans. It’s a simple statement of a fan preferring one album over another. If he’d compared “Press to Play” to a Lennon album, would you be as upset? Would you consider that an insult to Lennon’s memory and fans? We’d be sorry to lose you as a reader, but as you should know from reading our magazine we’ve always allowed our writers to express themselves freely on Beatle subjects, and we’re not about to stop now. Thanks for reading.

Howie Edelson responds:

Dear Tim,

Please see my loving tribute to 1982’s “Gone Troppo” (Issue. #192, Page 21). You are incorrect regarding what you perceive as my bias. My writing in said article proves as much. As a Harrison lover yourself, you might enjoy it.

All Glories Go To Sri Krishna.

See Yourself.

Love Comes To Everyone.


 I really liked Howie Edelson’s interview with Mark Lewisohn! Howie said/asked so many of the things I would have. I finished the abridged version of Vol. 1 of Mark’s book and hands down it is the best, most complete, typo- and error-free, interesting book I’ve ever read about The Beatles! (and I have about 150 Beatles-related books!).


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Macca Needs to Open the Vault More for His Reissue Series

Recent Paul McCartney reissues have been big on paper goods, but a bit shy on what fans really want: unreleased material from Macca’s legendary vaults. Reed Pitkunigis offers his thoughts on this issue, and you’re free to share yours, either via the comments below or by emailing BEATLEFAN LETTERS at

"Venus and Mars" deluxe box set.

“Venus and Mars” deluxe box set.

I love CD box sets.

Most of my favorite albums from the late ’60s to early ’70s are getting the full-blown deluxe treatment these days. Wonderful multi-disc sets filled with tasty nuggets of demos and various mixes of the albums.

This brings me to the recent releases from Paul McCartney. I have all of his super deluxe edition releases and was really looking forward to “Venus and Mars” and “Wings at the Speed of Sound.” I was really hoping that His Nibs (oops, sorry, Sir Nibs) would open up the vaults and pleasure us with a vast assortment of demos and unreleased songs.

The door to this vault is open a crack, but we are still not allowed in. Let’s face it, casual fans of these albums could buy the $15 double-disc version and be very happy with them. The super deluxe editions are intended for hard core Macca-philes. While I love the paper goodies included in each set and the booklets, you know that once you glance at the paper stuff once or twice they wind up on a shelf alongside your other box sets and maybe you’ll look at them again years down the road.

The real selling point of these sets should be the audio and video content. Paul seems to think that by putting on B-sides and one or two demos, that we would be satisfied.

News flash … we are NOT.

"Wings at the Speed of Sound" reissue.

“Wings at the Speed of Sound” reissue.

What put me over the edge on this matter was that, during the time of the release of these two new offerings, Paul put up free download demos online of some songs from the albums that do not appear in the new box sets.

Why not put them on the CDs in the box sets? It is obvious that the Macca vaults are full of these wonderful demos, and yet we are only getting to hear a couple of them. When other artists put out box set retrospectives, they include tons of demos to give the fan an idea of the way the album took shape in the early stages. Some sets even contain a complete CD with all of the album’s songs done in demo format.

Why can’t Paul do that?

These box sets should be knocking our socks off with rare content, and they don’t.

Another quibble I have: Why not put 5.1 surroundsound versions of the albums in with the sets? Home theaters are the rage these days and many audiophiles (myself included) have wonderful set-ups to really immerse yourself in surroundsound. You look at box sets out there from other artists and they generally throw in a 5.1 mix of the album on either SACD, DVD-Audio or Blu-ray Pure Audio.

Why has Paul not embraced this trend? If these new sets had a 5.1 mix, many would say it’s no-brainer to buy them.

George Harrison "Apple Years" box.

George Harrison “Apple Years” box.

Dhani Harrison similarly dropped the ball with his father’s “Apple Years” set by not putting in anything mind-blowing, as was touched on by Brad Hundt and Rip Rense in Beatlefan #210; that is one box set I won’t be getting.

(On a sad side note, I left a polite remark on the George Harrison Facebook page about the lack of rare content on the set and they fixed it so that I could not leave any more comments.)

In summary, Paul has a chance with this reissue series to really put out definitive versions of his albums, which not only highlight the finished album, but also give us an insight into the making of the album. He has only partially succeeded.

Let’s hope that future releases address some of these issues. “Back to the Egg” should include all of the videos from the album PLUS the “Rockestra” set and perhaps a CD of a complete Wings show from the time period — not just a few songs from the concert.

Time to step up to the plate Sir Paul and put out a product that will be the measuring stick for all future box sets.

Oh, and did I tell you? I love CD box sets.

Reed Pitkunigis

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The Beatlefan Interview With Cynthia Lennon

Bill King wrote in his Publisher’s Notes for Beatlefan #213 about interviewing and meeting Cynthia Lennon. Here is that interview, originally published in early 1982. …

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Cynthia Lennon Twist could never escape being known as the first Mrs. John Lennon, even if she wanted to — and she doesn’t. But the 42-year-old blonde has found a new way to make her unavoidable place in history work for her.

So it was that in the wake of a much-publicized art show in September (1981) at Long Island’s Tower Gallery, Cynthia Lennon (the name she uses professionally now) came to Atlanta the first week of December to launch a national tour of her artwork at the Limelight disco.

It’s a situation that finds her with one foot in the future and one in the past. The art shows open up the possibility of a belated career as an artist for her, but the subject of her exhibited works is her life with Lennon and The Beatles. She wants to be known for something she’s done on her own, yet she is using the last name of Lennon instead of the name of her estranged husband, John Twist. She laughed slightly with embarrassment when asked about that.

Speaking in a British accent devoid of any Liverpudlian drawl, she talked willingly about her work and her life with The Beatles. But her relationship with Lennon was put off-limits for the conversation Beatlefan Publisher Bill King had with her.

In addition to the exhibit of 15 cartoons, she brought with her to Atlanta a large, colorful painting of The Beatles (valued at $25,000), which she donated in Lennon’s memory to the Scottish Rite Children’s Hospital.

What follows is the Beatlefan interview with Cynthia Lennon, originally published in two parts in Vol. 4, No. 2 (February-March 1982) and Vol. 4, No. 3 (April-May 1982). …

What name are you using?

Well, the name I’m using is Lennon, mainly because I wrote the book “A Twist of Lennon” and it was Cynthia Lennon and, you know it seems to be with me.

Is that both professionally and personally?


How did this art exhibit and tour come about?

Oh, it was pure chance, really. I don’t know if you read about it, because I did a few interviews. No, it was just purely — I was running a restaurant at the time in North Wales and a friend of mine who is from the old days came to the restaurant, also with another friend, and saw my drawings from the book there on the walls.

Was that Peter Brown?

That’s right, Peter Brown, and Stephen Gaines is an author. He’s working on a book with him at the moment. And they came to have a chat, and they came to see the restaurant and see me. And the drawings were on the wall and Stephen Gaines said that he knew somebody on Long Island who had a gallery, it happened to be Gary Lajeski, and he took some photographs and sent them to Gary, and Gary liked them and invited me to come, so that’s how it all began.

Had you ever given any thought yourself to exhibiting your artwork?

No, I hadn’t really, because I’d been so busy. I’d been running a restaurant, you know, and all sorts of things, sorting out, looking after Julian, sorting things out. I’ve had a very heavy sort of two years, the last two years and this, for me, was a wonderful opportunity. It was out of the blue, really.

Is this the same artwork that was in your book?

A painting by Cynthia Lennon donated to Scottish Rite Children's Hospital in Atlanta in 1981.

A painting by Cynthia Lennon donated to Scottish Rite Children’s Hospital in Atlanta in 1981.

Yes, it’s the cartoons. There are 15 cartoons. They didn’t put them all in the book. But I’m also doing a painting, a large painting.

The one you’re donating to the hospital?


What is that painting about?

Well, it’s in the same vein. Of course, it’s very large and it’s on canvas. So it’s not a small drawing, a small cartoon, it’s a large painting.

What does it depict?

It’s the era, again the ’60s, the “Magical Mystery Tour” time.

The drawings you’re exhibiting, was this something you did particularly for the book?

Actually, I did them when I was writing the book. I thought it would be nice to illustrate, you know, because I hadn’t done any illustrations for years. But, I mean, all the memories were there, and in writing the book the memories came back. Being trained as an illustrator, I thought it would be nice to sort of slot in the illustrations.

Did you continue with your art at all after you left art school and got married?

When I was married to John? No, no, I was busy looking after Julian and, you know, it was an incredible time, so really I had very little time to carry on with art.

Didn’t you make a reference to your work in India, where you spent some time …

Oh, yes, yes. I did a lot of drawings and paintings there. Yes, because I had the peace and quiet to do it and the meditation and everything.

What was that whole experience like, that Indian adventure?

For me, it was a marvelous experience. I loved it. Purely because it gave us — well, it gave me a time to breathe. And it gave us all a time to breathe, you know, to relax, totally out of the glare of everything, you know, publicity and everything. And it was a marvelous time.

Did any of that stay with you, the meditation?

Not in great depth. I wouldn’t say I go into meditation in great depth. But now and again I do meditate because it’s a peaceful way of relaxing, it’s a good way of relaxing.

What’s it been like to re-enter the public eye?

Well, it’s quite amazing, really. But I think I’m a lot older and a lot wiser and, possibly, I think I can cope with it better now. Also, it’s something I’m enjoying because, hopefully, I’ll be successful in what I’m doing. It’ll give me the chance to start all over again, which is what I wanted to do. And it’s just, just the way it’s happened, I’m going with the tide, you can put it that way. But also doing what I want to do, what I wanted to do for years, anyway.

So, you would have liked to have had a career as an artist?

Oh, yes, I would have loved to. But life sort of didn’t deal me the cards.

Sort of makes choices for you, doesn’t it?

Yes, it does.

Is it difficult now, dealing with being a former Beatle wife or John’s ex-wife, in particular?

Well, I cope with who I am and what I am, not with, not a nametag, if you know what I mean. I know who I am and, no, it’s not difficult because I’m the same sort of person. I haven’t changed a great deal. I’ve just gotten a little older and a little wiser.

What do you know now that you wish you’d known 17 years ago?

Oh, gosh, that’s a difficult one. It’s just to take life a little easier and to … the fact is, I realize how precious each day is, and to make the most of it.

You and everyone involved with The Beatles lived sort of at full speed, didn’t you?

Absolutely, yes. Frenetically. So, now it’s nice to pick and choose, really.

Do you still run that restaurant in Wales?

No, that closed down. Well, that’s another experience in life. I’ve done it once. I could probably do it again if I have to.

Weren’t you involved with Mike McCartney’s ex-wife and doing some songwriting?

Yes, that’s right. She was working with us. Angie was always doing songwriting and I write words and she was putting the words to music. You know, she played the piano and I was the word person, but nothing evolved from it. It was just fun, really. It was fun. It was creative.

What is the book you’re working on now, a fairy tale?

Well, the idea is to do a fairy tale of the story of The Beatles. But for children as well as adults, not … it’s very hard to describe, but more fantasy as well as reality, do you know what I mean?

You mean telling the story of The Beatles in the style of a fairy tale?

Yes, yes. In pictures.

Will this be published in the U.S. as well as Britain?

I have to work on it yet [laughs].

Is this something that has come about just since you did the exhibit?

Yes, yes, this is evolving from it.

I understand you went to the New York Beatlefest.

Yes, it was incredible. I couldn’t believe it. It was amazing because I’d never been to one before … I was just amazed by the whole experience.

Were you apprehensive about that?

Well, it happened quickly, like everything else has happend very quickly in the past sort of six months or so for me. And it just happened. And I just happened to be there and it was an experience I’d never had before. And it was fascinating.

What was the fans’ reaction?

They were lovely. They were wonderful. They were really super. And it was lovely to see them. I couldn’t believe that it was still all going on. You know, the Beatlefest, which I’d never been to before, but I couldn’t – I’d never been able to imagine what one would be like. And the devotion and the love from all different ages, it was just incredible.

Has your relationship with the fans changed over the years?

I think I’ve always had a good relationship.  I’ve had plenty of mail – fan mail. I don’t like to say fan mail. But I have lots of contacts and things from the old days. And it’s never really stopped.

Did it change at all when you first came out in the open as John’s wife? Any negative?

Very little. Very little. I seemed to have a lot of support at that time.

How about the divorce?

A lot of support then. I just can’t say I’ve ever had anything really negative at all.

You were in a position of observing the formative stages of The Beatles. Was John in the group before you met him?

John and Cynthia in the early days.

John and Cynthia in the early days.

Well, we were at college together. We were students and I was there when they formed the group.

So you knew him before they formed it?

Oh, yes, yes.

Did you have any feeling at that time they had any real future in entertainment?

Well, it was very difficult because  we were studying a lot and they were doing it on the side, but I think once they started, once they went to Germany, and came back from Germany – they went to Hamburg – and John threw up his art studies and everything, then it all started happing in Liverpool. Then I did believe. You know, in the beginning, they were four young lads sort of trying their best and doing what they wanted to do most of all, which was play music.

What was the relationship between John and Paul like in those days?

Oh, very good. They were friends.

In some of the biographies, they try to picture it as sort of an adversary relationship even then.

As far as I can tell you, we were all friends, we were a group, we were friends and they were playing music together, and happily as far as I know. (As with) any other sort of relationship, they had their ups and downs. They were only kids.

Were they as close as brothers?

They were just close friends. I can’t say brothers, no. I wouldn’t say that, but very good friends with the same thing in common: music.

Did it change over the years with the fame, money and pressure?

No, I think during the pressure they even got closer together, you know.

Were they basically agreeable? Did they get along fairly well?

Yes, very well. In fact, they couldn’t have played such good music, I don’t think, if they didn’t.

Or stuck it out all those years.


You went over to Hamburg some while they were playing there, didn’t you?

Yes, yes, yes.

The Hamburg experience is credited as a turning point for them as a band. Did you see that happening? Did they change?

Oh, gosh, yes. They had to work solidly for hours and hours and hours and their music evolved and they changed because they weren’t students or schoolboys anymore. They were in the big grown-up world of entertainment, even though it was in sort of the Reeperbahn of Hamburg. They were earning some brass.

What was your first perception of Brian Epstein when he offered to manage them?

I was thrilled to bits. I liked Brian very much. He was great fun. I loved Brian.

Revisionists, particularly in “Shout!”, make it seem Brian didn’t really know what he was doing.

Yes, well, I haven’t read that book yet. I’m sort of a quarter of the way through it. So I can’t really comment on what’s been said.

What is your impression of Epstein as a manager?

I think he had flair and was creative and perhaps not in the total business sense of the businessman, but he loved them and he did his best for them. And I think he did very well, don’t you? Listen, nobody’s perfect, are they? It’s afterwards that everyone wants to sort of … I don’t know, go into such fine detail about something, that it’s very hard to do. Cause if you’re there at the time, it’s a totally different situation.

Were he and the group members very close?

Oh, yes. They were a unit, you know, and a good unit.

You were the only wife to go on any American tours, weren’t you?

Yes, I came on the first one.

What was that like?

Oh, it was fantastic. I didn’t see much of New York, though … or anything else, quite honestly, but it was a fantastic experience. Unbelievable.

Were they still enjoying it at that point?

Oh, yes. They found it unbelievable as well.

Was it as grueling as it is nowadays?

Oh, yes, definitely. No, it was all grueling. It was very very hard work.

A lot of people like to tie in The Beatles stopping touring and branching out creatively with their introduction to drugs. What role did drugs play creatively?

Together at the height of Beatlemania.

Together at the height of Beatlemania.

Creatively, it’s very difficult to say. I think drugs were an escape at the time. And that’s my view, and they were still – no matter what they did, as far as drugs were concerned, I think they were creative in themselves. So the creativity would still be there. It might be heightened or lessened – but they were still very creative.

How about its effect personally on their lives?

Well, you have to read my book. [laughs]

You wrote that you thought in your case you thought drugs played a major role.

Oh, yes, it did.

I was thinking in broader terms of the group in general.

Again, that’s a difficult question because that was a time of sort of drifting apart, really, evolving more individually, I think, at that time, as opposed to the unit of four, because Brian wasn’t there anymore.

In other words, you think that would have happened anyway?

I’ve no idea, I’ve no idea.

You seem to have continued some relationships from that time. I know I read you’re still close to Maureen …

Yes, well, it’s very strange. It’s only – it’s almost full circle. Because I wasn’t close to them for a long, long time until this time last year, really.

So it wasn’t something that just continued unabated?

No, because I had my – I went separate ways, you know, trying to find different avenues and, of course, they were still involved in music and I was out of the music scene altogether for years.

How did you come back into contact?

Actually, through that meeting in the restaurant with Peter Brown, ‘cause I hadn’t got Maureen’s phone number. I had lost her address. And it was through that meeting that I saw Maureen again.

How about others from The Beatles’ family at large?

Yes, I’ve seen Pattie, who’s now married to Eric Clapton. I’ve seen George. See, but I live in North Wales and it’s a long way from London.

How did you end up in Wales?

I don’t know. I just took off one day in the car and I was looking for a little cottage to paint in – again, I wanted some isolation and privacy. And I found a place and it was for sale. I just ended up at the end of this sort of … through this forestry commission land, and I ended up looking at this place and it happened to be for sale, and that was it.

You mentioned George. After you were divorced from John, did you continue to have a relationship with the other three Beatles?

No, I saw them occasionally, sort of on the nightlife circuit, you know, bumped into them occasionally, but, no, we didn’t carry on a close relationship.

How did The Beatles’ wives and children get along with each other?

Oh, fine. You know, we were really one big happy family, because we were thrown together because of circumstances, but, I mean, luckily enough we all got on very well together.

You had similar backgrounds …

Two of us did – Maureen and I did. We’re from the North and I think Jane and Pattie were from the South. But, apart from that, we just got on very well together.

Doesn’t Julian know one of Ringo’s sons?

Through Julian and I going to stay with Maureen, he got to know Zak. Zak is Maureen’s oldest son, but Zak is still at school and he’s doing his own thing and Julian is doing his own thing as well. You know, Julian’s three years older than Zak.

I understand they’re both musically oriented.

Very, yeah. Very.

Did you ever have the urge to join in with the music and the performing?

No, no. I like writing and I like painting, but entertainment is … I had a dream once that I would have liked to have been a chorus girl, but that was when I was a little girl. [laughs]

When The Beatles were going, there was sort of an impression they had a thing going on which no one else could have fitted into.

That’s true. That’s true, because they evolved together from such an early  age and they went through so much together, that I think it would be impossible. It was impossible, really.

What are your feelings about having a son go into entertainment?

Well, I think entertainment’s wonderful, you know. I love entertainment. I think it makes people happy. And I think if Julian is lucky enough to be gifted musically, and he has the proper training, I believe he has to have the proper training first, not just thrown into it because of who he is and everything. But the thing is, Julian is musical and he is artistic and he’s working on it at the moment, and if he’s successful, then I’ll be very happy.

Is he studying music?

He’s studying music, yes.

So he’s actually going about it a different way from the way his father did.


Can you separate yourself f from being his mother and tell me what you think his potential is?

Very good. [laughs] You mean, not be biased? Well, I also listen to what other people say. I sit back and see other people’s reaction to Julian’s music. And I do believe he’s got a great deal of talent and determination, which is very important.

Does he still plan on coming to New York?

Well, not at the moment, no. I think he’d probably like to come have a holiday.

I know that he got a lot of press.

I know. I know. Well, it was a very frantic time.

There were magazine articles that tried to make it look like you and Yoko were having a tug of war over Julian. Is that just sensationalism?

Obviously. I mean, you know, it’s ridiculous. But, I mean, these things are bound to happen.

Did being John Lennon’s son make it tough in any way for him growing up?

No, he’s been pretty well protected, really. I think he’s had a few hard times, but I think where we’ve lived – you know, Julian has been out of the limelight, really. And I’ve tried to give him a sort of quiet, normal sort of upbringing. And it’s only in the past year that he’s been thrown into the big, wide world with the press.

Like in school, did kids ever give him a rough time?

No, not a lot. Obviously, occasionally they did. There’d be different reactions, but I think on the whole he’s had a very good – he’s had it reasonably easy.

Do you still keep in touch with people in Liverpool, like Aunt Mimi?

Oh, yes, I’ve spoken to Mimi. I haven’t seen her because she lives in Bournemouth. She lives down south, but I have spoken to her. I do keep in contact.

Do you go back to Liverpool much?

Well, Liverpool’s only an hour from North Wales, and I’ve got friends in Liverpool as well, so I’m still based in the North.

Has it changed a lot?

Liverpool? Oh, gosh, yes. A great deal.

Bill Harry says he hardly recognizes it now …

It’s a very sad area at the moment, but they’re hoping to – they suddenly realized they sort of wrecked it. They pulled it apart, tried to modernize it, and took the heart out of the city. And now they’re going to have to put it back again. The planners’ dream didn’t work.

Do you ever read books about The Beatles?

I read a few. I usually read other people’s books who happened to have them. [laughs] No, because I know what’s going on without reading.

I was just wondering whether there were any books that you thought got the story right.

I suppose they’re all right in many facets. Everyone has something different to say, has a different outlook. And a bias towards the book they are writing, and I haven’t really read a lot about it, no.

Did Philip Norman interview you for “Shout!”?

No, he didn’t.

He tries to imply that he did.

I know, but he didn’t, and that’s the part that I’ve read, the first bit, the beginning of the book, and I was a little bit annoyed, because a lot of what he’s put in is sort of taken from the book that I wrote. That’s almost his interview with me. No, he didn’t contact me at all. I would have given him an interview, but he didn’t contact me.

Have you been asked to consult on any Beatles films or films about John?

No, there is a play on in Liverpool at the moment called “Lennon,” and they asked me if I could help them with that, but I couldn’t. I mean, I wanted to, but I couldn’t, I couldn’t even go to see it, because it’s too upsetting. I was hoping perhaps someone could video it for me. I just couldn’t watch it, you know, because apparently it’s, uh, very upsetting. I just couldn’t sit there and watch it. Perhaps I could on my own, but I couldn’t do it in an audience.

How did you come to be friends with May Pang?

May Pang and Cynthia Lennon at the Limelight in Atlanta, December 1981.

May Pang and Cynthia Lennon at the Limelight in Atlanta, December 1981.

Well, when May was with John for the 18 months, during that time I brought Julian over to stay with John and May, and I went off on holiday in L.A. But I wanted Julian to see his father and May was with him at the time and they got along beautifully. You know, we got on very well together. You know, when two people love the same person, it’s hard to describe, but it’s just that we get on very well together. And there’s no sort of bitterness or anything, and Julian loved May, and May was very kind with Julian, and so that’s how it evolved, came about.

What is your relationship with Yoko Ono?

I don’t really have a relationship with Yoko. It’s as simple as that.

You never see each other or have any contact?

No, no, there’s never been any reason to. Because any contact between Julian and his father was done between him and his father. And I had nothing to do with it.

What sort of relationship did he have with his father in later years?

It was getting very good.

Did he see a lot of him?

He went about once a year to stay with him.

Is Julian coming to Atlanta for your art show?

No, I don’t think so. I don’t think it would be wise for him to come, really.

How did it come about that you’re donating this painting to the children’s hospital?

Since it’s the Year of the Child, I decided to do it in memory of John.

The last year has been a difficult one for you.

Yes, it’s been difficult and very different.

Is it something you still have great difficulty dealing with?

Yes, I do [voice trembles noticeably], but life has to go on, doesn’t it?

Do you feel you’re at a turning point in your life?

A definite crossroads. Definitely.

What brought you to this point where you want to try something different?

I’ve no idea. It’s circumstances, again. It’s like, how did I find the cottage in Wales? Sometimes I feel I’m being sort of led. And when it’s right, I go with the tide. If it’s wrong, then. … It feels right at the moment.

Do you have any plans other than that book of drawings you’re working on?

I’m taking each day as it comes, and I’m making the most of it and whatever evolves, you know, will be very exciting. What is important to me is to be creative and to do something good. And if I have the opportunity to do that, then I’ll do it. And if this is the opportunity I have, then I’ll make the most of it.


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